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My husband is verbally abusive, although he loves me very much. He won't go to counseling, although I do. How can I control or stop him?

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July 8 12:43 PM (30 minutes and 26 seconds later)
         
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Have you made him aware of how much his abuse hurts you? If it is really severe, you may want to let him know that you will leave him if the abuse doesn't stop. Do you give him what he wants most of the time? You may want to stop giving him the things that he wants if he treats you poorly. Make sure you stand up for yourself. I had a verbally abusive boyfriend once, so I left him. I do understand that you may not want to leave your husband, and that if you do, leaving a husband is much more difficult than leaving a boyfriend. Try to impress upon your husband that the way he speaks to you is having a serious negative impact on your relationship. Also ask your counselor for other ideas on changing how he treats you.
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July 8 5:56 PM (5 hours and 13 minutes and 18 seconds later)
         
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In reading some of your other questions posted on this site -- I note that you have a chronic health condition -- the name is not important, since you do not mention it here.

I'm wondering what (if any) connection you see between -- your being diagnosed with chronic health problems (and/or the onset of worsening symptoms) -- and your husband's verbal abuse.

Verbal and/or physical abuse -- whether by a spouse or other family member -- is, unfortunately, common...  and, incidentally there many are cases where the wife (or other female family member) becomes the abuser.  I am living proof (in my case it was physical abuse -- by my first wife).

I'm sure there are scientific studies out there which catalog statistics, causes and effects, etc. -- I have not researched are reviewed them -- for our purposes here.

I have not looked at causes and statistics because -- in your real-life, today situation -- the reason(s) your husband is abusing you and even knowing how many other people are in similar situations -- is not important.

What IS important is that you continue to get counseling and get whatever other help and support is necessary for you to either -- get the abuse stopped -- or get out of the relationship.

I know that your health challenges are not easy on your husband.  I also know that they present additional economic hardships which may make leaving (if that becomes necessary) especially difficult.  But...

Your health problems are not your fault -- you don't deserve to be abused.  AND, if you have children in the home -- this has to be very hard on them to be around.  Plus, they are getting a very twisted model of marriage -- and of how a a husband should treat his wife and [if applicable] the Mother of his children.

Some general ideas for supports you may need in dealing with both your health condition and the abuse situation are as follows:

Contact organizations dealing with your disabling condition, as well as Domestic Abuse resources in your area.  If you attend church perhaps there are some counseling or other resources available there.  Depending on where your husband works -- there may be an Employee Assistance Program (EAP) which offers counseling and related services to employees and their families.

If you need assistance in finding contact information for any of these (or other) resources -- please Private Message (PM) me and I will be glad to assist you further.

Good Luck!





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July 8 9:00 PM (3 hours and 4 minutes and 7 seconds later)
         
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 Her is some information on this syndrome in addition to the good information you were given by the above experts.

Why does wife abuse occur? Many writers believe the cause is male chauvinism --a male belief that men are superior and should be the boss, while women should obey ("to honor and obey "), do the housework, and never refuse sex. A male abuser is described as filled with hate and suspicion, and feels pressured to be a "man." That sounds feasible but new findings (Marano, 1993; Dutton, 1995) suggest that the chauvinistic facade merely conceals much stronger fearful feelings in men of powerlessness, vulnerability, and dependency. Other research has found abusive men to be dependent and low in self-esteem (Murphy, Meyer & O'Leary, 1994). Many of these violent men apparently feel a desperate need for "their woman," who, in fact, is often more capable, smarter, and does take care of their wants. These relationships are, at times, loving. The husband is sometimes quite attentive and affectionate. Often, both have found acceptance in the relationship that they have never known before. Then, periodically, a small act of independence by the wife or her brief interaction with another man (perceived as intended to hurt him) sets off a violent fight. The abusive man becomes contemptuous, putting the woman down in an effort to exercise physical-emotional control and build up himself. Of course, the insecure aspects of many abusers are well concealed within the arrogance.

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Likewise, battered women have been thought of as weak, passive, fearful, cowering, self-depreciating partners. Of course, some are, but recent findings (Cordova, Jacobson, Gottman, Rushe, & Cox, 1993) suggest that many battered wives, during an argument, are outspoken, courageous, hot-tempered, equally angry and even violent, but they are overwhelmed by the husband's violence. They don't back down or de-escalate the argument; they respond with verbally aggressive, offensive comments. The women were often "unmothered" as children. The male abuser often grew up in a violent environment, where he was sometimes (30%) abused himself or (30%) saw his mother abused. So, we often have a situation in which two insecure but tough, angry, and impulsive people are emotionally compelled to go through the battering ritual over and over (Dutton, 1995).

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Often emotional abuse turns into physical abuse. Researchers are just now studying the complex details of battering by males. There are many theories about male violence: hormonal or chemical imbalance, brain damage, misreading each other's behavior, lacking skills to de-escalate or self-control, childhood trauma, genetic and/or physiological abnormality, etc. Also, beneath the abuser's brutality, therapists look for insecurity, self-doubts, fears of being "unmanly," fears of abandonment, anger at others, resentment of his lot in life, and perhaps a mental illness (Gelb, 1983). Several TV movies, such as The Burning Bed, have depicted this situation. In short, we don't know the causes of wife abuse; it is a safe bet that they are complex.

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Abuse should not happen but no treatment is a sure cure, probably we don't even have a good cure. About half of batterers will not get treatment and half of those that do, drop out. In most cases, it is wise to report the abuse to the police. Most police have had some training in handling "domestic violence" cases; however, officers in New York, which has a mandatory-arrest law, arrest only 7% of the cases and only report 30% of the domestic calls (Ingrassia & Beck, 1994). Police are supposed to provide the victim some protection (of course, this is hard to do and can't be guaranteed). Recent research confirms the benefits of pressing charges in these cases, however. If the abuse is not reported to the police, about 40% of the victims were attacked again within six months. If the abuse is reported by battered wives, only 15% were assaulted again during the next six months. So, protect yourself.

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To the outsider the real question is: Why do they stay together? Why doesn't she leave? There must be varied and complex dynamics which tie an abusive couple together. We have much speculation; we need more facts. Clearly, there are likely to be emotional bonds, fears, shame, guilt, children to care for, money problems, and hope that things will get better. Many abused women are isolated and feel unable to find love again. Some women assume abuse is their lot as a woman, this is an expected part of life. A few women even believe a real, emotional, exciting macho "man" just naturally does violent things. Some violent men are contrite later and even charmingly seductive. Some women believe they are responsible for his mental turmoil and/or are afraid he will kill himself or them. She may think she deserves the abuse. Many (accurately) believe he will beat them more or kill them, if they report the assaults. The abused woman often becomes terrorized and exhausted, feeling totally helpless. Walker (1979, 1993) says the learned helplessness (within a cycle of violence and making up) keeps women from breaking away from the abuser. Celani (1994) suggests that both the abuser ("she can't leave me") and the abused ("I love him") have personality disorders, often originating in an abusive childhood.




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July 8 11:33 PM (2 hours and 32 minutes and 18 seconds later)
         
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Greetings:

I'm sorry for your situation. My prayers and thoughts are with you and your husband.

Is something troubling your husband? You state he loves you very much - how wonderful. Too many times men will react this way when they are not able to provide for their family and/or they feel hopeless/helpless over a situation - thus they take it out on the one closest to them......you know that saying "you always hurt the one you love".....however, it could also be due to illness....men do not like to see doctors - and many will react in a very negative and/or hurtful way when under the weather (anyone for that matter)....the longer they prolong the inevitable visit, the more they suffer - and their loved ones too! I truly don't believe he is doing this out of a sheer abusive demeanor.

If you wish for further insight, please do not hesitate to contact me.

My very best to you and your husband.

Bright Blessings.

Peace, Love & Happiness,

The Mystic Wave

 

     

Edited by TheMysticWave on July 9 2004 at 1:22 AM



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July 11 7:19 PM (2 days and 19 hours later)
         
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We all project our early life (adolescence, infancy, even young adulthood) trauma and dysfunctional relationship patterns onto our present environment. How else could we heal them unless we keep them close?

The problem is they are so painful that we pretend we don't see them when they present themselves.

We blame the other person for being the way we subconsciously expect, and need, them to be.

And then we're stuck because it is all their fault. They are behaving wrongly, they are not doing what they should. They are bad.

Hmmm, you just lost control of your life because someone else is the source and cause of your condition.

Truth is, your husband is playing the role you have created for him (subconsciously) as the unhealed wounds of your youth present themselves for resolution.

I suggest you

1. Take responsibility for the situation and stop blaming.

2. Continue with therapy

3. Read the book "The Eden Project: In Search of the Magical Other" by James Hollis.

 




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July 12 7:51 PM (1 day later)
         
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 Although it can be just as harmful to a relationship or a person as physical violence, verbal or emotional abuse is too often not acknowledged as a serious problem in a relationship -- especially by the abuser. Of course your husband loves you very much, but it may be that he simply doesn't understand how hurtful this habit is to you. If he is open to exploring this issue with you, that is a very good start. Sit down and talk to him about it, and in addition to all the great advice you have been given, make sure that he knows when he's doing it. Many verbal abusers, even if they know that the abuse exists, may not be able to pinpoint what they are saying or doing that's harmful, or they may only be able to identify the more obvious examples. If he's making an effort, make sure you are helping him change his ways by letting him know exactly what is harmful. Be persistent in your efforts. The dynamics of a long standing relationship are very hard to change.


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